For the Love of Comedy by Marilyn Brant

No doubt about it, Jane Austen was the master of many elements of writing — skills that any author in her right mind would admire and envy: incredible characterization, showing not telling, cohesive plotting, deft social commentary, romantic tension, subtext, smooth narration and an unparalleled use of irony. She employed all of these to make pointed statements about the proper (and improper!) behaviors of others, to wield her wit in the instruction of manners and morality and to show the pathos and human drama that lay just beneath the surface of so many societal interactions.

But, for fear of this post sounding like a fiction-writing textbook, let me just say that — for me — an appreciation of the technical skill of her novels came later. What came first — and foremost — was the comedy.

I could personally name dozens of scenes in Pride and Prejudice alone where the comedy really shined and where I literally laughed aloud reading them and, later, watching them onscreen. Mr. Collins introducing himself to Mr. Darcy at Netherfield… Mary Bennet’s “instructive” lessons in morality at the breakfast table… Darcy and Elizabeth sparring over what it meant to be an “accomplished” lady… Elizabeth and Lady Catherine having that little chat in the prettyish wilderness of Longbourne… Yeah. I’ll bet you all can think of your favorites, too!

I really liked this article by an instructor at St. John’s College on the two main types of humor used in Pride and Prejudice. The instructor wrote:

“The first is the very subtle, particular humor which usually comes out in the dialogue of the novel, especially from Mr. Bennet, Elizabeth, and Darcy. The second is a more obvious kind of awkward, ‘slapstick’ comedy as seen in Mrs. Bennet jumping between nervous breakdowns and excitement over a new rich man in town, or Mr. Collins’ incessant bowing. The former type of humor is mostly found between people in a relationship, and is used to show the level of familiarity and comfort that exists in relationships, such as that between Elizabeth and Darcy and between the Gardiners. The latter humor is used by Austen to mock and ridicule certain people and situations that she disapproves of, such as people who base their lives and relationships on flattery, or people who are too full of themselves.”

The article went on to talk about Mr. and Mrs. Bennet and how, to avoid making the novel overly depressing, “Austen has Mr. Bennet endowed with wit towards his wife, which sometimes even comes out as endearment for her, but this is all that he is capable of showing.” On the other hand, Mrs. Bennet is “ignorant of her ridiculousness and shallowness, and even her husband’s disregard for her. It is perhaps better, then, that she is so naïve and self-focused.” Sad, but true…

The instructor also made an interesting point about Wickham and Lydia that I’d never considered before. There’s a scene in the book when Mr. Bennet says how proud he is of Wickham and defies even Sir William Lucus to produce a more valuable son-in-law, which I’d always taken to mean the most entertaining because Wickham was such a liar and narcissist that there would always be some amusing drama afoot. I still think my interpretation is at least partially right, but I appreciated the instructor’s take on it, too: “I had never understood why Mr. Bennet called Wickham his favorite son-in-law, but when I think that they are both stuck with two identical women, it makes sense for Mr. Bennet to have a certain endearment for him and the lifetime of headaches ahead of him.” LOL! Ohhhh, poor Mrs. Bennet with all of her nervous flutterings. Will Lydia soon follow suit?

And then, of course, there’s the relationship between Darcy and Elizabeth, which seems to be based on humor in a way that Jane and Bingley’s relationship is not (however sweet and earnest the two of them may be). The instructor suggests that one of Austen’s main points is that “the greatest happiness in a marriage requires a sense of humor between two equals.” In observing the happiest married couples of my acquaintance…I’ll admit, I’m inclined to agree :) .

Do you think having a good sense of humor is an important part of a relationship? And what is one of your favorite comedic scenes from any of Jane’s books?

In honor of the release of my second digital romantic comedy, Double Dipping, I’m giving away two PDF copies to commenters today – winners’ choice – of either that new ebook or my first romantic comedy, On Any Given Sundae (excerpts from each are in the Delightful Divergents section of The Writer’s Block). Let me know in the comment section if you’d prefer DD or OAGS. If you have them both already, please let me know that, too! Aside from my heartfelt gratitude, if I draw your name, I’ll send you a pretty A Summer in Europe t-shirt instead!

**Open internationally — I’ll have the random drawing after midnight tonight, CST, and post the winners’ names here in the morning. ;) **

47 Responses to For the Love of Comedy by Marilyn Brant

  • Completely apart from Austen’s humor, I wanted to tell you I loved On Any Given Sundae! You did a fabulous job with humor in that with a great romance to boot. :)

  • Marilyn Brant says:

    Aww, Abigail, THANK YOU!!! That means so much to me. I’m *thrilled* to know you liked it ;) . xox

  • I purchased OAGS for my eReader, Marilyn, but Double Dipping wasn’t listed yet.

    As for humour in my relationship, nah, I never touch the stuff! And if you believe that, you may believe I can get through an entire reading of Austen’s work without cracking a smile. My poor husband must have a high respect for my puns. They are his old friends, and he has heard me mention them with consideration these thirty years at least.

    There are far too many instances for me to ever choose a favourite comedic scene, but it may come as no surprise that I especially enjoy Mr. Bennet’s comments.

    • Marilyn Brant says:

      LOL, J.Marie! I love your puns, too, even if I’m not as long acquainted with them as your husband is ;) .

      And thank you for getting On Any Given Sundae! Since the distribution to everything but Kindle and Nook goes through Smashwords, it does take longer for it to show up there. I hope Double Dipping will appear in the eReader catalog soon…

    • Jakki L. says:

      Joanne, I love your humor! Your husband is a lucky guy to get your humor daily! Do you by chance offer lessons? :wink:

  • Kat says:

    I think for relationships it’s not so much using humor but rather not getting hung up on the small things, don’t take everything so seriously. I too love Mr Bennet’s comments, particularly when Mr Collins first arrives – “it is happy for you that you possess the talent of flattering with delicacy. May I ask whether these pleasing attentions proceed from the impulse of the moment, or are the result of previous study?” – love it!

    I haven’t read either of your works and I am intrigued. Will have to check out the excerpts.

    • Marilyn Brant says:

      Kat, that scene with Mr. Bennet and Mr. Collins is such a fabulous one, I agree. And I really like your comment about not taking things so seriously in relationships. I’d that’s been true for really good friendships as well as romantic relationships. The friends I have that know how to laugh at themselves and look with a gentler eye on the occasional harmless mistakes of others are wonderful to be around. They keep all things in good proportion ;) .

      • Kat says:

        Yes, you are right about it applying to friendships as well – its great when you don’t have to “tip-toe” around a friend but can just be yourself and know you will be accepted.

        I’d love to win either book but if I have to choose, how about OAGS? Please enter me in the draw.

  • Excellent post, Marilyn!

    Where to begin? There are so many scenes in P&P that make me smile or laugh out loud that I can’t choose. Mr. Bennet provides quite a few zingers (especially when he responds to Kitty telling him that she’ll be a good girl and not run away like Lydia did or when he tells Mrs. Bennet that he’s NOT going to call on Bingley again because the younger man had his chance and he can bloody well call on him instead, lol) and Elizabeth and Darcy’s sparring always borders on slapstick for me, particularly the scene at Rosings at the piano.

    I already own BOTH copies of your lovely books, so you can exclude me from the drawing.

    • Marilyn Brant says:

      Pamala!!!
      Thank you for visiting me here today and for getting both of my books already (hug!) — I appreciate you ;) .
      It’s funny, I hadn’t realized until today just how *many* scenes Mr. Bennet was instrumental in making humorous! What a wonderful character he is… And, yes, for me, too, that Rosings piano scene is always so funny. I think of it every time I try to play piano (badly), knowing that Lady Catherine would surely insist that I practice more — far out of earshot.

  • Jill Thomas says:

    I was reminded of the wonderful sparring of Miss Bennett and Mr. Darcy when I read ON ANY GIVEN SUNDAE. Rob and Elizabeth shared the same smoldering chemistry that Austen so brilliantly crafted in P&P. Chemistry filled with not only intelligence and wit, but enough sexual tension to drive the reader insane! :wink: When I think about the time period in which Austen wrote this classic, my mind boggles. So ahead of her time!

  • Jill Thomas says:

    PS As I already own both ON ANY GIVEN SUNDAE and DOUBLE DIPPING…AND an early edition, signed copy of A SUMMER IN EUROPE (brag, brag) you can exclude me from the drawing, my friend :) )

    • Marilyn Brant says:

      Jill, thank you!!!
      Not only do I appreciate your supportiveness toward me and all of my books, but anyone who compares the chemistry of my characters to Lizzy and Darcy makes me blush with delight (and hope fervently that this might be even a *little* true ;) ). Thanks so much. xo

  • Angie Kroll says:

    Loved the post! Please enter me in the contest. Thanks!!

  • Nina Benneton says:

    I’d never thought of Mr. Bennet identifying with Wickham in such a way with that wonderful line! Brilliant!

    I’m listening to JA’s in the car when I drive, and her humor and brilliance come through even much more when I’m listening. Even Mansfield Park was funny to me.

    ebook only? I just told my bookseller I wanted Double Dipping in print copy when I put in my order. I’ll zip over to Amazon then.

    Nina

    • Marilyn Brant says:

      Nina,
      *waving* Hi!! It’s wonderful to have you visit — thank you ;) .
      I’m going to have to get some of JA’s books on audio and try that when I have a long drive ahead. What a great idea!
      And, yes, that remark from the instructor about what Mr. Bennet and Wickham shared was particularly fascinating to me. I love it when someone suggests an idea that makes me look at some element of P&P in a new way, and that comment made such sense…

  • Mary Simonsen says:

    I’ve always thought Mr. B’s comment was referring to the mother lode of comedy that would come out of the Lydia and Wickham marriage. Of course, it would have actually been terribly said, not funny. But I prefer Mr. B’s take.

    Best of luck with your novel. Great cover.

    • Marilyn Brant says:

      Mary, thank you!
      Re: Mr. Bennet’s comment — I’d always thought he was referring to the entertainment aspect of being an observer, too, though you’re right — Lydia and Wickham’s marriage would’ve been more sad than amusing… I can’t think of the exact quote without looking it up, but I remember Oscar Wilde having said something about people with “a past” being more amusing to talk to. I suspect Mr. Bennet would agree. :razz:

  • Mary Gerlach says:

    Marilyn:

    I have followed this blog since it began, and now have courage to respond. Thank you!
    I have read OAGS and enjoyed it, and I am sure I would love DD also.
    As far as Mr. Bennett,s humor, I especially like his rejoinder to Lizzy when he tells her she must “henceforth be a stranger to one of her parents” after Mr. Collins’ proposal. As far as his comment about Wickjam, I thought he meant the ridiculousness actions and two-sidedness. But since, this would now be enacted towards Mr. B’s daughter, perhaps it is not so amusing.
    Mary

    • Marilyn Brant says:

      Mary, I’m thrilled you enjoyed OAGS and so glad you decided to comment here — thank you ;) .
      The scene you mentioned with Mr. Bennet after Mr. Collins proposed is *such* a brilliantly written one, isn’t it?! I remember how awed I was by Austen’s cleverness when I first read it. The way it was paced and the dialogue leading up to Mrs. Bennet professing that she’d “never see Lizzy again” if she didn’t accept Collins…and then the fabulous line from Mr. Bennet that you quoted and Lizzy’s relief. I’ll admit, I almost felt sorry for Mrs. Bennet in that scene, being set up so cleverly like that. :grin:

  • Edie Ramer says:

    I love Jane Austen’s humor. She was so witty but never in a mean way – unless the character deserved it. I would have loved to know her in person.

    I disagree with the instructor about Mr. Bennet’s comment about Wickham. I’m positive it was irony and he meant the opposite.

    I own all your books, and T-shirts never fit me because of my height (sniff). I already have my prize from reading this post that I enjoyed so much.

    • Marilyn Brant says:

      Edie, I would have loved to have known JA in person, too (a wish that I’d imagine most authors and visitors to this site would share ;) ) and I agree with you about the irony. How could that not have played some part in Mr. Bennet’s remark?! Thank you for visiting me here and making me smile with your lovely comments!

  • Carolyn Eberhart says:

    Sometimes I find JA’s humor too subtle. It will skip over me at the first reading or two, then I will finally catch on and wonder how I missed it in the first place.

    • Marilyn Brant says:

      Carolyn, she was just so clever, wasn’t she?! I think that’s one of the truly wonderful things about a writer as talented as JA — there will always be more humor and insight that we’ll pick up on in future readings ;) .

  • Monica P says:

    Yes, so many witty and humorous moments to choose from! I love the “accomplished woman” scene and how E & D are enjoying not only sparring with each other but poking fun at Caroline without her realizing it. I also feel like there’s so much sexual tension in that scene, too. After he says that her defect is to wilfully misunderstand people, I just know they really wanna kiss, hard. Lol

    Humor is definitely important in a relationship. It keeps the everyday annoyances of life that you can’t control from making you crazy.

    I’d love to win OAGS, I’m keepin my fingers crossed that I do.

  • Marilyn Brant says:

    Monica,
    I *so* love that scene, too! You’re right about the underlying sexual tension there — it’s so strong you can almost touch it. :razz: You know a scene is fantastic when you start laughing even before it starts. Every time I get to that part in the book or one of the films, I’m giggling before Elizabeth and Darcy can even speak.
    Thanks for the thoughtful comment!

  • Jakki L. says:

    I think humor is a must in a relationship. I am glad my DH is funny because I can tend to be too serious at times. We are a good balance!
    I also agree with Mr. B’s humor being great!

    • Marilyn Brant says:

      Jakki,
      I think it’s the ideal thing when there’s a good balance between spouses ;) . My husband can be pretty funny, too, and I appreciate his humor — most of the time!!

  • BeckyC says:

    Humor is a must in all relationships. I definately appreciate JA subtle humor.

    My interpretation of Mr Bennet of Wickham falls closer to your idea. A sarcastic humor of a great disappointment.

    I have not read either book yet although they are both on my TBR list, however I own According to Jane in both paperback and digital version and have read it multiple times. :wink:

  • Marilyn Brant says:

    Becky,
    I loved the way you phrased this: “A sarcastic humor of a great disappointment.” Well said!!
    And your comments about According to Jane made my night — thank you! xo

  • Marilyn Brant says:

    I just went to Random.org to do the official name choosing… Of the people who were eligible and who wanted to be entered in the contest, two names were drawn: Kat and Mary Gerlach. Congrats to you both!! From your comments, Kat would like a copy of On Any Given Sundae and Mary would like Double Dipping, yes?! Please email me (MarilynBrant AT Gmail DOT Com) so I’ll know which email address to send your PDF copies to.

    And to everyone who stopped by, MANY THANKS for your insightful comments yesterday!! I always look forward to my posts on AuAu because the visitors here are so warm and wonderful. Wishing you all a very happy start to fall. ;)

  • Lúthien84 says:

    Well, I’m too late to enter the giveaway but never mine. I just want to say that I enjoy reading new insights on the instructor’s piece on two types of humour present in P&P. I definitely agree with what he says.

    I think that a good sense of humour is a must in relationships though I don’t mind if one side is providing all the humour. That would cheer things up! :razz:

    • Marilyn Brant says:

      Luthien, I really liked that part of the instructor’s article, too, about the 2 types of humor! I think it’s that dual nature of the comedy that makes it so accessible to a wider audience. Younger readers and those who enjoy the broader, more slapstick type of humor have it available to them, while a more mature audience can appreciate that as well but also get a chuckle out of JA’s more subtle comedy :) .

  • Marilyn, I really enjoyed your post today – it made me think about aspects of Jane’s books that I hadn’t given thought to in a while. (I’ve been stuck on what I’ve been centering on in my own WIP).

    I found it interesting as well that Mr. Bennet referred to Wickham as his most valuable son-in-law. I had interpreted that statement the same way you had, but never considered that he and Wickham were indeed married to two peas in a pod, and likely to know the same frustrations as a result of it. It makes sense, especially as Jane tells us later on with regard to the couple that they eventually sunk into indifference. Would that they had Darcy and Elizabeth’s humour, as well as respect!

    Best,
    Susan

    PS: I didn’t know you have t-shirts for your novel! Very nice! :)

    • Marilyn Brant says:

      Susan, thank you! I hope your WIP is going well!! And the t-shirts were simple — they just have the book cover on the front, but it was an image I liked ;) .

      As far as Lydia and Wickham’s marriage, I always felt a bit sad for her because, though she was impulsive and foolish, she was just 15…and who, at that age, really understands what a terrible mistake they can be making? I sometimes wonder what Lydia at 35 would be like. And Wickham 20 years later?! I don’t want to think about it! *shudder* As you said, if only they’d had even a little of Darcy and Elizabeth’s mutual humor and respect…

  • Susan Kaye says:

    While Mr. Bennet and Wickham are married to women of the same type, I’m sure the results are going to be far different. Let’s face it, both Wickham and Lydia are far more likely to jump the fence so to speak than Mr or Mrs Bennet were/are. Sadness all around for them, I fear.

    Anyway, you know I’m going to sidle over to Persuasion for the humor portion of my comment. I absolutely love Anne and Frederick, post Gravel Walk, looking over Elizabeth’s houseplants at the card party. Frederick admitting that he kept them apart for six years longer than necessary is spoken with humor and just enough guilt. I think very quickly that Anne realizes her more subtle sense of humor is safe with him and I think they will do a lot of laughing over the years.

    • Marilyn Brant says:

      Susan, you bring up a really great point — Lydia and her mom are of a similar type, but Mr. Bennet and Wickham are not at all similar men. Mr. Bennet is resigned to his lot in life and bored by it, but he wouldn’t stray from the marriage. Wickham, well…

      And I *love* the Persuasion scene you chose!! For all of my P&P favoritism (*grin*), there are so many elements of Anne and Frederick’s relationship that I admire. Their often quieter understanding of each other is one of them. They’re a couple I’d love to peek in on a few decades later ;) .

  • I love this analysis, Marilyn! Humor seems so subjective that it’s hard to really deconstruct it, but you did such a great job here and it makes total sense. I think it’s especially helpful to those who are trying to use humor in their own work.

    As for the drawing, well, I bought both books immediately when they came out, so save the copies for someone who has yet to discover your work. :-)

    • Marilyn Brant says:

      Thanks, Caryn!! {{And hugs for already getting my books! xox}}
      You’re so right about the subjectivity of humor. I know there are some styles of comedy that other people will just love but, for me, it falls flat…and vice versa. I’m sure I’m the LAST person some kids from my childhood would ever imagine becoming a writer of comedy — I didn’t get their jokes and they didn’t get mine ;) .

  • I think a compatible sense of humor in a relationship is a must! It absolutely makes lifes little challenges richer and more fun.

    One of my fave Jane Austen scenes is Emma and Mr. Elton in the carriage on the way home from the Weston’s dinner party. I giggle every time I read it!

    • Marilyn Brant says:

      Alyssa, LOL about that Emma and Elton scene! Oh, JA was just too, too good at showing the contrast between a truly devout clergyman and a perfectly obnoxious one. It was fun to read anything Mr. Elton is in…and doubly so when his incomparable wife joined him! :razz:

  • Kim Withey (aka Bookobsessive) says:

    I have to agree with Jane that every marriage needs a little comedy. If you can’t laugh at yourself or with your signficant other what a sad life you must have. I am fortunate that my husband has a sense of humour otherwise he would recognize that I am completely crazy and divorce me. :)

    • Marilyn Brant says:

      Ha!! Kim, from your comment, I suspect you have a pretty good sense of humor, too ;) . One of the qualities that made me fall in love with my husband was his sense of humor — often bordering on irreverence! — and the way he’ll remind me not to take life too seriously… You and I were both fortunate to meet men that could make us laugh. :razz:

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